How halachikly wrong is it for a person to take a test for someone else (with 100% guarantee that they wont get caught)?
Hypothetically.
Ya know like on a scale from 1 to 10. Or on a scale from "You are going to need a lot of kaparos" to "You will go to hell".
And remember, this is totally hypothetical.
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It is very wrong. I can not put a number to it, but that being said It is very wrong. You are in essence selling your integrity. You are stealing to boot. When people have asked me to write a paper for them, no matter how good a friend they are, I always say NO.
However, we don't know how Hashem judges things.
Think of it this way though, you do lots of mitzvos in your lifetime, do you want them all to be made worth less by the fact that you did this act of cheating.
Just as a person is the best judge on how sick they are in regard to Yom Kippur, so too a person is the best judge on how badly they think the act will impact all the other things that they do. After all once you do this you are now A Cheater.
maybe its like when a goy undercharges you..... u r not obligated to do anything...
is the hypothetical test open book...?
Wrong.
lol...i meant to say, youo WANT him to understand chemistry, you don't care about shakespeare.
sorry!
i'd say its wrong. But who am I to judge?
I write papers for people, and get paid. lol.
Some kid owes me $200. I know someone who works at his college.
he doesn't pay, I threaten him. :-)
But I only write papers that don't mean anything towards his major.
Why would it matter if your doctor can write well, or understands chemistry?
Depends on how much you're getting paid. ;-)
I would say it's a very gray area.
The only type of test I can think of where this would happen is an online one, or a take home one. And once it's in those categories then it's not really such a real test, and the prof would expect some cheating.
If it's a real test in class and the prof just doesn't know who's who, I would say it's tricking the prof, which is wrong. It's putting the wrong name on the paper which is lying.
I know I haven't been perfect in the cheating department, but in my first year of college, I actually asked a Rav a question of whether someone was cheating or not. He told me what I did was ok and that it wasn't cheating. Then after that I think I became desensitized, and didn't get as paranoid in thinking that what I was doing was cheating and I would let it go.
Considering what frummie yeshivos do to get money...
Moshe: as far as I know My frummy yeshiva was ethical in how they got money.
I read over my first comment, and I meant to say *something* not *someone*.
As far as you know that is.
I know for sure my wasn't. Neither were others. Fraud, money laundering, etc.
Moshe: I meant, I actually do know.
My school is very famous for the 2 incedents when they didn't take money.
Also, my principal would always say that he answered to his burd (beard) not a board. That he was happy he didn't get funding from other places cause then he would have a board of directors and would have to answer to them. This way he only answers to himself, of what the Torah way is.
in case any of u wanted a hypothetical ending to this hypothetical question, no one took any test for anyone else. the person who was supposed to take the test took it and probably failed. she will hypothetically find out her grade on monday. stay tuned
frumskeptic- ill be talking to u next semester... im taking a stupid english class ;-P
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